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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:54 pm 
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Looking for any recommendations on external hd enclosures, or for that
matter, hd docks anyone's happy with, preferably with FW 400 and/or 800.

Most of my enclosures are getting long in the tooth.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:03 pm 
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I wish I'd written down the ones I've seen on ASC, & FW400 is getting hard to come by, but for IDE drives…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-IDE-hard-dr ... 1426146647

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mac-PC-IR-9300C ... 2212625860

Then there are these, but I'd ask if they're PPC bootable…

https://eshop.macsales.com/search/OWCME3+KIT


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:40 am 
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Apart from Firewire what are the other requirements? I see no mention of you using a PPC so I don't know if you need PPC bootability.

I use a Voyager dock which lets me attach bare drives. I can have multiple drives but only need one "enclosure" (the drive just sits on top). Right now I use it 24/7 for my ongoing backup (with CarbonCopyCloner, not Time Machine but similar) but I can easily borrow it for a while to archive files onto dual archive drives. I have an older model which can boot Firewire but is limited to 2TB or smaller drives. I also have a newer model which supports my 4TB archive drives but I didn't bother with the Firewire model because my newer computer doesn't have Firewire and I believe the newer models with Firewire don't support PPC booting.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:00 pm 
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Having PPC bootable is a plus, but not necessary.
I also have a older Voyager ( silver and black ) and it works just fine, my recent
encounter with the latest iteration of them made me sour on them, so I'm looking
for alternatives other than Newer Tech products.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:39 am 
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I'm a fan of buying cases and HDs separately.

Macally cases have been extremely solid for me, unfortunately it looks like they've discontinued most of their Firewire cases, leaving only this one:
http://us.macally.com/products/phr-250cc

I have a good dozen or so of that case still trudging along w/o any failures, but it is limited to USB 2.0 and Firewire 400.

Unfortunately with the 2012 13" MacBook Pro discontinued there's not a single model sold by Apple that includes Firewire, so it looks like everyone's packing up shop and leaving...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:10 pm 
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I bought the more expensive one:
https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewir ... _FW400_USB

I got a dongle for 400 to 800. Works well for me. I bought two 1t and a 4t.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:48 pm 
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I actually have a stack of the ministack fw800/400/usb 3.0/esata cases at home with a variety of drives tucked inside. However one of the cases died shortly after the warranty expired.

I made my workplace buy one of their RAID 0 fw800 cases and tucked two 2TB drives inside it as a backup solution since that option was unbelievably cheaper than buying a 4TB drive at the time.

But since he seemed leery of OWC I was trying to think of other options.

Hmm. I have a bunch of Orico cases at work, although I never could find a Firewire case (nobody ever stocked it) - the ones there are all just USB 3/eSATA because, well, USB 3 is fast enough. Unfortunately my model(s) have been discontinued. Grr. They appear to be soldiering on in 2, 4, 8, and 10 bay form. Which looks really goofy.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:24 pm 
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I wonder if that would work with IDE<->SATA adapters, I have a dozen or more IDE drives…

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... lsrc=aw.ds

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... lsrc=aw.ds


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:12 pm 
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I've also got a stack of older ministacks that so far seem to be running ok, maybe 3 of the 9 are probably dead
and one has a balky fan. I just tired of disposable hardware these days, the old scsi enclosures I have probably
still work fine if I can find a scsi drive, LOL !
I just wanted to see what else there is, Wiebetch seems to have become something else, and I didn't even know
Macally still made hd enclosures.

MonkeyBoy wrote:
I actually have a stack of the ministack fw800/400/usb 3.0/esata cases at home with a variety of drives tucked inside. However one of the cases died shortly after the warranty expired.

I made my workplace buy one of their RAID 0 fw800 cases and tucked two 2TB drives inside it as a backup solution since that option was unbelievably cheaper than buying a 4TB drive at the time.

But since he seemed leery of OWC I was trying to think of other options.

Hmm. I have a bunch of Orico cases at work, although I never could find a Firewire case (nobody ever stocked it) - the ones there are all just USB 3/eSATA because, well, USB 3 is fast enough. Unfortunately my model(s) have been discontinued. Grr. They appear to be soldiering on in 2, 4, 8, and 10 bay form. Which looks really goofy.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:29 pm 
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http://www.serversupply.com/products/pa ... gQod4-kBHQ

http://www.serversupply.com/products/pa ... gQodoQELkQ

http://www.disctech.com/Seagate-ST33670 ... gQodTcUCrw


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:58 pm 
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For what it's worth, I will not touch Western Digital external drive cases: I've run in to quite a few that just behave oddly, and a RAID 1 case that was a complete boondoggle and required special drivers that were never updated to work with later computers (fortunately the case was given to me by someone else who got fed up with it, so I didn't feel bad about recycling it).

- Anonymous


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:11 pm 
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Last time I opened up a malfunctioning Seagate case I found, to my horror, a drive whose controller ended in a USB connector instead of SATA.

Needless to say, that drive stayed malfunctioning.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:44 am 
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I heard about those but I haven't run in to one yet myself, in person. I used to buy tons (well, maybe not literally tons, but very probably hundreds of pounds over the years) of drives and drive cases, but for the last five years I haven't needed to since I'm in to a bit of a different field of work. I was, however, still buying a lot of drives when I first heard about those Seagate USB drives with the USB controller straight on the drive, and was very careful to avoid them because that's the kind of thing that could really ruin my day when I'd need to swap stuff around for troubleshooting or recovery.

Oh well, at least they're not physically soldered on to the computer's motherboard. That would be the worst. Glad no one has come up with the idea to d...oh. Never mind. :(

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:51 pm 
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I almost wanted to run out and buy a similar-generation SATA drive from eBay to see if I could just swap on the SATA controller and gain access to the data.


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