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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:06 pm 
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I think the OSX for Intel Macs is a different build than the PPC build. So if you managed to install using the MB it would boot on the iBook. Most Tiger retail kits were PPC only. But you could go iBook to iBook if they both have FW ports.


The iBook wouldn’t turn on. I connected the iBook to the MacBook, let the DVD appear on the Mac, restarted and booted into TDM holding T, then restarted the iBook holding option for the boot menu. It just has the loading watch icon and the trackpad wont scroll, it sits there. tried multiple times. it’s the Polycarbonate white MacBook.

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It is the PPC retail disc. Just using a MacBook (2006) On Snow Leopard to install...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:08 pm 
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As I recall there was only one Universal 10.4 install, the expensive 10.4.6 Tiger Server DVD.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:10 pm 
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Does it work the other way, putting the MacBook in TDM mode & holding alt on the iBook?


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BDAqua wrote:
Does it work the other way, putting the MacBook in TDM mode & holding alt on the iBook?


That’s what I have actually been doing.. Oh wait, I should try the other way!

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BDAqua wrote:
As I recall there was only one Universal 10.4 install, the expensive 10.4.6 Tiger Server DVD.


I would insert a picture, I don’t know how to on here.. On the side of the box it says it requires a G3, G4, or a G5 with a DVD drive.. It doesn’t even say anything about Intel.

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TDM only works for the internal HD, it doesnt work for the CD/DVD. Once in a blue moon I'll see TDM present two HDs (in systems with >1 HDs) but normally no.

The MacBook won't work for installing on the ibook running in tdm because the system has to be capable of booting off the install media. Since the install media is PPC only you need to boot it on a PPC.

Unless you find another ppc system that works (and supports 10.4) I think waiting for the dvd is your best bet.


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CR... what is the 2z691-****-A number on the DVD, likely it's PPC only.

To inset a pic here use the IMG tag if you have a URL for where it is online, or below the Submit button here you'll see choose file, normally 1024*768 pixels is good.

MB, back on my G4s FWTDM would show first HDD & the Optical drive.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:55 am 
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Thought I should post this old iBook info here since I just ran across it...

Tried resetting the PMU for PB/iB?
The following is the procedure for resetting the PMU on the PowerBook G4 17":
1. If the computer is on, turn it off.
2. Reset the power manager by simultaneously pressing and then releasing Shift-Control-Option-power on the keyboard. Do not press the fn (Function) key while using this combination of keystrokes.
3. Wait 5 seconds.
4. Press the power button to restart the computer.
https://www.cnet.com/news/troubleshooti ... g-the-pmu/

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449 


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BDAqua wrote:
CR... what is the 2z691-****-A number on the DVD, likely it's PPC only.

To inset a pic here use the IMG tag if you have a URL for where it is online, or below the Submit button here you'll see choose file, normally 1024*768 pixels is good.

MB, back on my G4s FWTDM would show first HDD & the Optical drive.


I saw some video of a guy connecting his iBook to the Macbook via FireWire, booting into TDM, and installing Tiger.

I still can’t add a photo so I will write that code out: the DVD says: 2Z691-5811-A. What does that code do?

I’ll reset the PMU.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:18 am 
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MonkeyBoy wrote:
TDM only works for the internal HD, it doesnt work for the CD/DVD. Once in a blue moon I'll see TDM present two HDs (in systems with >1 HDs) but normally no.

The MacBook won't work for installing on the ibook running in tdm because the system has to be capable of booting off the install media. Since the install media is PPC only you need to boot it on a PPC.

Unless you find another ppc system that works (and supports 10.4) I think waiting for the dvd is your best bet.


My MacBook was on 10.5, I made a dumb mistake of moving to 10.7 because Lion was intel only.. If I would have stayed on an OS that also supports PowerPc, it would’ve worked on my MacBook! Ugh! I will try waking up the broken iBook. But the install disc in the MacBook says PowerPc isn’t supported...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:35 am 
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Ok, 2Z691-5811-A is indeed... 2Z691-5811-A is the Install Disk for PPC Macs, G3, G4, and most G5s... 10.4.6, no Intel, not the 10.4.6 Server Disk.

I see you got the pic finally.

I'd still like to see that Disc on the MacBook booted in FWTDM, then boot the iBook with t key.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:45 am 
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Got it. I will. I didn’t see that little “Add file” button.. Been installing a bunch of updates, the MacBook is almost done. I’ll shoot you a picture of the iBook with the iBook in TDM.

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No the iBook not in TDM, the MacBook in TDM! :)


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Ah, I meant to say that. Sorry. I posted the reply when working on another macbook (A1278) which is giving me a very hard time, I’m trying to hotwire it. I actually to need help on that; I will make a post on it if anyone knows or is willing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:52 pm 
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BDAqua wrote:
No the iBook not in TDM, the MacBook in TDM! :)


Oh wait- if the iBook has the DVD player app, does that mean it has a DVD drive too?

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I don't remember for sure, but I think not?


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This just in from my good friend K Shaffer...

Some versions iBook (G3/white second build) have a CD-only, or a CD-RW/, CD-RW/DVD-R, or DVD/CD-RW, and etc!!

The media available with the dated version hardware, allowed the then-current feature-set. Later, one could look into Disk Utility to see what was said about optical drive features; as far as they went..

Some third party optical drive upgrades did OK with Apple software; and as you know of, some required third party software to fully use their capabilities.

The DVD-Drive could be any of those versions it shipped with. However Disk Utility where those bits of info should be available, or where all HDD and Optical drive info, can be read, should tell.

The application is not indicative of the hardware; and later Mac OS could give the device, a Player but no Hardware.


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Forgot to ask or mention that in the old days a .toast file could be renamed as a .iso or .dmg file & then Disk Utility could restore the file to a CD, DVD, or USB/FW drive.


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BDAqua wrote:
Forgot to ask or mention that in the old days a .toast file could be renamed as a .iso or .dmg file & then Disk Utility could restore the file to a CD, DVD, or USB/FW drive.


Oh yeah.. that person on Apple Forums. Oh also, I kind of.. force booted.. the Mac via USB, (I copied the DVD in Disk Utility using Restore..), and I used Open Terminal... After punching in the commands, I got this weird “shattered” Folder look... It was so weird. Just stayed there. So I grabbed a paper clip and pushed the restart button. I have no idea what that was.. It’s a USB 2.0 Flash drive which is backwards compatible..

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I once used CCC to copy installation media to an HFS+ volume on a firewire hd that used apm partitioning. I imagine the same technique could be used to dupe a mounted disk image to a usb drive provided its first partitioned and formatted properly.

Now that being said I tried to do the same a few years later and had no luck but I may have crossed the ppc/intel line between the two points.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:32 am 
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Did you use Disk Utility to "Restore" the DVD to the USB Drive or just Copied it ?


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BDAqua wrote:
Did you use Disk Utility to "Restore" the DVD to the USB Drive or just Copied it ?


Disk utility. I did the source and destination thing and then restored the blocks. It took forever.

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Oh, OK, what was the exact command you used to coerce it to boot from USB?

Dud you ever try just the alt key on startup?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:49 am 
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Ah, I don’t remember. I did try option/alt.

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