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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Interesting. I create a dummy Install macOS Mojave.app (I duplicate then rename one of the existing apps in there) that I then chown, chmod, and chflags uchg (aka finder lock) to try and prevent Apple from overwriting it. I wonder if it also stops the notifications. My laptop usually is in Windows and when I'm in High Sierra it's got an actual Mojave.app in Applications but I'm not there long enough to get a sense of whether its nagging me to update or not. Upgrading to High Sierra using the .app DID delete my High Sierra .app though, and the &*#($&*(#$ App Store only gives me the stub installer.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:25 pm 
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I always zip a copy before installing.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:27 pm 
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I did that too, but my installer was old so I wanted to get a 10.13.6 version of the installer but nooooo Apple has decreed I may not have it. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:36 pm 
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No idea why some get the stub & a few the full installer... crazy Apple.


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I imagine in your position you have to get the early worms & early bugs. :bonk:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:33 pm 
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I try to stay as bleeding edge as I can go and still get work done because I know some student somewhere is going to go ahead and find a way to do it because Apple wouldn't tell them to upgrade if it wasn't a good idea.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:34 pm 
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I back up Mac OS installers (and others) to an external drive.

If anyone needs, I have the installers (as downloaded from the App Store) for Sierra and High Sierra and now Mojave. MB, do you still need High Sierra?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:00 pm 
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Very nice of you Mike. :coffee:


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Bear in mind that those installers may be connected to your Apple ID.

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Yeah, be careful of who you share your .apps with, you never know exactly how much information is in them.

I had 10.13.4 installer zipped up before I lost the app I was just trying to get a 10.13.6 installer. I really hate the stub installer trend.


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Anonymous wrote:
Bear in mind that those installers may be connected to your Apple ID.

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Worst case if it is?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:19 am 
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The problem is, if you can't "buy" the OS installers when they are available because you hardware won't support them, you won't have them when your have hardware which will. For the past couple of decades I have always been about 4 OS versions behind current. I think I downloaded the Sierra installer from my wife's 2013 MBP (which is still on Mavericks) but haven't been back on it yet for High Sierra or Mojave. Fortunately Apple has been keeping EOL versions although they decide what is EOL for your model computer so if you have something that supports High Sierra but only want Sierra you are out of luck. I figure I'll be ready for High Sierra when Apple's at least 2 steps beyond Mojave. I always have old hardware and usually there's some sweet OS version spot for the hardware.

Once Apple stopped bring out any kinds of updates for Mavericks I just went into the App Store application and told it to stop notifying me about updates. That took care of the nagging.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:20 pm 
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WZZZ wrote:
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Bear in mind that those installers may be connected to your Apple ID.

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Worst case if it is?

When you try to re-download any installers, the store may require you to use the AppleID associated with the account for the install of OS X you're running (assuming the account you're using downloaded the others in the first place). I don't know if it goes any deeper than that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:49 pm 
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If you attempt to run a licensed app that's registered to another Apple ID it can, at the time the app is launched, require you to enter the username & password of the account its registered under. At worst it'll fail to launch saying its not authorized for this system.

Normally if the app has never been opened and it's a "free" app then it'll run fine on another system but refuse to update unless you enter the apple id it was "purchased" under. The worst I've seen for a free app is opening fine but refusing to update at all. Well, worst I've seen is an app refusing to open because it got tied to the appleid & hardware id of the source system, which I think was because the app was opened and used before being shared. Most of my users know just enough to be a danger to themselves and others. And they wonder why I'm removing admin rights.

The OS installers seem like a best case scenario, in that it never yells at you when you run them. But the clickthrough license doesn't grant you the right to share installers, so therefore Apple could - if they wanted to - come after you if they found your copy of the app was being shared online. The only time I've heard of that being done is for limited release alphas and betas that "somehow" got onto the pirate bay or similar file sharing sites (as I recall it was just a legalese warning to cut it out).


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:15 pm 
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Rebooted into High Sierra a few minutes ago to grab a CC installer and despite only being in it for 10 minutes it prompted me to install Mojave. I had a full Mojave installer in /Applications, no mangled restricted fake installer or anything.

Looks like the method mentioned earlier is the only means of stopping the nag.


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re: Installers linked to Apple IDs: Good to know. Thanks for that update!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:33 am 
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BTW, anyone looking to get High Sierra still should be able to follow this link to snag it from the app store still. It'll be 10.13.6. Might still need the security updates after it though, but those are easy enough to get via regular update functionality at least.

It should hopefully net you the full installer.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:06 am 
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What Link?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:45 am 
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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-h ... ls=1&mt=12

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741?ls=1&mt=12

Hard to see blue highlight on "this" (Wouldn't be a bad idea to change that to something more striking, especially when only 1 word is text linked.)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:57 am 
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re: links: [quote="WZZZ"](Wouldn't be a bad idea to change that to something more striking, especially when only 1 word is text linked.)
I've noticed this and, when I do links, I've been adding a color tag for a brighter blue.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:24 pm 
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Oh, thanks, it's the "this" that is the link... tough to spot, but I like full URLs where possible, thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:10 pm 
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Yeah, that's the link I followed to try and get 10.13.6 and the App Store gave me the stub installer instead.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:17 am 
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Leroy Douglas might've found a way to get the full from the stub!

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Feb 26, 2019 10:06 PM in response to meintjes24
If you are still having problems, a work-a-round—
Alternate Method: How to Manually Build a Full MacOS Mojave Installer
http://osxdaily.com/2018/09/29/download ... installer/


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:31 pm 
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I wonder if the find method would survive a reboot, it's probably using DAV or a similar technique to link to files on Apples servers and show them as existing on your system, otherwise it'd take quite a while for all those files to download. Still, I bet you could copy the application and it might preserve them as actual files instead of links.

Still, that's a clever way of getting the installer, I never thought of using those tools. They're probably using a simple http/https URL to pull down the full installer.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:57 pm 
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Yeah, anxious for somebody to try it. :)


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