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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:14 pm 
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Up until this afternoon, I used to be able to lay my right thumb across the Option and Control keys and, with my index finger, reach up and press the Eject key, which would bring up the Sleep-Restart-Shutdown dialog box.

This has somehow changed; it is no longer is the case and it's making me crazy. Why/how would this happen, and how do I restore this handy function?

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:16 pm 
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Shutdown-restart and see if it's fixed. If not, SMC Reset.


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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:48 pm 
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Have you tried just Control+F12 ?


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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:19 pm 
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I tried shutdown-restart... and even restart and resetting PRAM, but those didn't work.

F12 on my keyboard is the volume UP button, and it doesn't behave differently with the Control key.

I'll try SMC reset next.

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:37 pm 
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Well, okay, then. SMC reset didn't do anything either. But then I tried my key combination again... and accidentally missed the Option key (so it was just Control-Eject).

THAT WORKED. So now, although I'm pretty darned certain it had been Option-Control-Eject all along, I suppose there is the possibility I'm mistaken.

Or ready for the home. <sigh>

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:47 pm 
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Try control and eject.

Didn't you change OS X versions fairly recently? It may be that you're remembering a key combination from the other OS X version. Apple does enjoy playing with this particular key combination, its changed at least a couple times.


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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:34 pm 
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If you're on Sierra it's hit and miss. Some users using Mac keyboards still say it works. It does not work at all for PC keyboards anymore. I used to be able to use CMD-OPT-F12 to sleep the computer. Now I can't. I used to use CTRL-F12 to bring up the S/R/SD dialogue window. Now I can't. In fact, F12 no longer works at all by itself even. Sierra has destroyed keyboard shortcuts for those functions. My eject menu in the menubar shows "F12" as the proper key, but lo and behold, pressing it doesn't do anything. Oddly enough, holding the power button on my computer brings up the S/R/SD window though. Still flipping stupid.

Oh, and as an added bonus, Sierra fucked up caps lock in such a way that when I press it to shift to capital letters, I have to delay my typing or else I get sOMETHING lIKE tHIS. Apple just loves to break shit for the hell of it. Either that or their engineers just royally fucking suck now.

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:43 pm 
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I just discovered Option Command Eject keys, makes the screen go to blackout. An essential key sequence for every teenager.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:37 am 
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roam wrote:
I just discovered Option Command Eject keys, makes the screen go to blackout. An essential key sequence for every teenager.

Doesn't just blackout the screen, it sleeps the computer, at least here. Shift-Ctrl-Eject turns off the screen. On my 10.11 Ctrl-Eject brings up the Restart-Sleep-Shutdown dialog.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:17 pm 
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There's also a combination that shuts down the computer, not just sleeps the display or computer. Without any prompts.

I was trying various key combinations and stumbled across it. Unfortunately I forget what the combination is. I'm not in any hurry to figure it out.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:11 pm 
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MonkeyBoy wrote:
There's also a combination that shuts down the computer, not just sleeps the display or computer. Without any prompts.

I was trying various key combinations and stumbled across it. Unfortunately I forget what the combination is. I'm not in any hurry to figure it out.

It's ctrl-cmd-option-eject. Easy to remember, all three bottom left + eject.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:37 pm 
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Aha, that's probably why I stumbled across it first thing. I was trying control and option and then added command.


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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:51 am 
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I want my keyboard shortcuts back. :(

Stupid OS X engineers breaking shit left and right (including webkit for 10.12.4 for all CPUs from Haswell up).

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:22 pm 
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For all its disadvantages, there are times I miss System 7/MacOS 8/9. Third party utilities could create hotkeys of amazing complexity, even overriding default behavior. You could customize the system to work exactly the way you wanted (well, so long as periodic crashes were included in your way), rather than simply living within a terrarium the vendor carved out for you.


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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:42 pm 
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Not sure if these work in Sierra or not...

http://www.shadowlab.org/Software/spark.php

http://www.maketecheasier.com/spark-eas ... 2010/09/24

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page ... id=ukelele

http://doublecommand.sourceforge.net/


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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:52 pm 
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WZZZ wrote:
roam wrote:
I just discovered Option Command Eject keys, makes the screen go to blackout. An essential key sequence for every teenager.

Doesn't just blackout the screen, it sleeps the computer, at least here. Shift-Ctrl-Eject turns off the screen. On my 10.11 Ctrl-Eject brings up the Restart-Sleep-Shutdown dialog.

Ah so it is sleep. I'll use that from now on.


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:32 pm 
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A by the way: since I upgraded to El Cap, sleep doesn't kick in for about 30 seconds. Prior to that, on ML, sleep would happen immediately after using the shortcut, or from the menu. Seeing this now both on iMac and Mini. First few times after the upgrade, moved the mouse a little, and interrupted it. Now I wait. Easy to see on the '10 Mini, which still has the pulsing sleep light. Don't know about Sierra.


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 2:41 pm 
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It is the same behaviour on 10.9 it takes a little while to get cosy before nigh nighs. It was this delay causing me to not recogniise the function as sleep.
I don't know why these newer OSes takes so long. One guess is they are writing a whole lot of useless data back to caches.


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roam wrote:
It is the same behaviour on 10.9 it takes a little while to get cosy before nigh nighs. It was this delay causing me to not recogniise the function as sleep.
I don't know why these newer OSes takes so long. One guess is they are writing a whole lot of useless data back to caches.


If your system is capable of hibernation mode, the entire contents of RAM are written to the drive. This is a potential way to disable that. Normal non-hibernate sleep takes <5 seconds.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:58 pm 
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Thanks Squishy, that's very informative. Not sure if I'll do that, but it's good to better understand what it is doing.


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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:38 am 
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I use "Keyboard Maestro" for all my shortcut keys.

With KM you can always invoke a script to do what you want.

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