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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:01 pm 
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Something weird is happening. I partitioned my boot drive into 3 partitions; hfs+ for Mac, fat32 for Windows, and fat32 to install Ubuntu, in that order. It's an mbr partition table.

Well, when I boot the 7.10 LiveCD and choose the first option for start/install, I go to a login screen. It's not installed yet, so there aren't any accounts associated with it yet, so what's going on? I can use the same CD to boot my laptop and it brings me to a desktop when I choose the start/install option. I've tried the following user/passwords:

root/root
user/user
ubuntu/ubuntu
ubuntuuser/ubuntuuser

Along with some combinations of the above user/passes and caps/ no caps to some of them. No luck. What am I missing. My next step is to make a new CD, but I have no blanks around. 200 DVD's but no CD's.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:13 pm 
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why cant you burn the ISO to a DVD?


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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:47 am 
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I'll try it again. Toast kept giving me errors, which I figured were because it's supposed to be on CD. Maybe it's the drive?
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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
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I'm in the same boot and never have cds and have never had issues burning them to dvds. Dont recall if i used Toast or not but it was ubuntu...


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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
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Linux doesnt use Fat32.... It will read and write from it, but you can't install to it.

As for the login screen issue, sounds like something is missing causing it to logout on you. As mentioned above, burn the ISO as a whole and give it a whirl. 7.04 install fine for me on my PC. I have not tried installing it on a Mac. Not quite sure how that works with EFI.


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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:04 pm 
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I only formatted it as fat32 because that seemed like the best option that disk utility gave me. I did the same thing on my laptop, and during the install Ubuntu let me reformat the partition as ext2 or some such. I'll try to burn it to a dvd on my laptop tonight.
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 Post subject: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:42 am 
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Finally got it all sorted last week. Looks like it was my dvd drive. Soon after failing to install Ubuntu, it started to fail on about 80% of my burns. At first I was blaiming Leopard, since it worked fine before the install. Replacing the drive fixed everything. Ubuntu is up and running, my grub works like a charm finally. EFI is working and the machine is up to 10.5.2. In 15 years, that's the first bad optical drive I've had.
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If it’s a G4/G5 Mac you can assuredly rule out being able to install any later versions of Ubuntu onto, since they abandoned PPC builds (which sucks fat sausage).

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:36 pm 
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Ha ha, very funny. Instead of throwing that bad optical drive away, I stuck it on a shelf and it found its way back into a new machine. Took me about 4 days and 10 bad discs to figure it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Ummmkay, so I am apparently wrong. I am at the moment downloading “ubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc.iso” from a certified Ubuntu mirror site. :o So, that means that PPC support is, well, STILL SUPPORTED!!! Or something.

I am going to install it on either of my 1.5GHz OWC G4 powered Macs, not sure which one yet. I’d like to be able to use my spare 17" Apple ADC LDC monitor with the setup though and have it work. I also plan on having it set up wirelessly via an Airport (old-school) card. I have two different machines to choose from, one is an ADC-motherboarded AGP G4, the other is essentially a Digital Audio motherboard in the rare prototype Quicksilver (more like QuickDarkGrey) case. I had version 6.something or perhaps it was 7.something installed on a non-ADC setup AGP Powermac (with a 1.5GHz OWC G4 upgrade) back in early 2007, so I know that the OWC G4 upgrade will work, I just have no idea if the ADC monitor will work at all. Any ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Leopold Porkstacker wrote:
Ummmkay, so I am apparently wrong. I am at the moment downloading “ubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc.iso” from a certified Ubuntu mirror site. :o So, that means that PPC support is, well, STILL SUPPORTED!!! Or something.

I am going to install it on either of my 1.5GHz OWC G4 powered Macs, not sure which one yet. I’d like to be able to use my spare 17" Apple ADC LDC monitor with the setup though and have it work. I also plan on having it set up wirelessly via an Airport (old-school) card. I have two different machines to choose from, one is an ADC-motherboarded AGP G4, the other is essentially a Digital Audio motherboard in the rare prototype Quicksilver (more like QuickDarkGrey) case. I had version 6.something or perhaps it was 7.something installed on a non-ADC setup AGP Powermac (with a 1.5GHz OWC G4 upgrade) back in early 2007, so I know that the OWC G4 upgrade will work, I just have no idea if the ADC monitor will work at all. Any ideas?

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it shouldn't be an issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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The computer (Digital Audio thingy) is in the process of installing Ubuntu 9.04 at the present. I had some initial difficulty with the setup, as it seemed as though it wasn’t booting from the CD with the ADC monitor (boots fine using a VGA monitor). I haven’t tried the wireless card yet either. It’s 79% done with the installation at the moment. I sure hope that once everything is installed that I will be able to use the ADC monitor and Airport card, since I plan on setting this machine up in the garage; otherwise a nuke-and-repave-with-10.4.11 will have to be the order of business.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Well, the installation seems to have gone OK, with the exception of having had to resort to manually restarting the machine a couple of times before the screen came up. Getting the Airport card working was a total no-brainer. I am installing updates right now, however, I am curious to see if I can get the ADC monitor to work– I will try that when the updates have installed.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Been farting around with this thing for a while now, and it does not seem as though it is usable with the ADC monitor. So, I think it is time to shut the thing down, and re-install the hard drive that has 10.4.11 on it that just works, and put aside the Ubuntu-booting drive until another day when I have another machine to put it into.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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getting the display to work has always made or broke a PPC ubuntu install for me. it always seems like the biggest hurdle


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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Well, if you cannot see what’s going on onscreen, it’s not a very useful computer, in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Leopold Porkstacker wrote:
Well, if you cannot see what’s going on onscreen, it’s not a very useful computer, in my opinion.
lol yeah. more specifically i can always get the install to run but have problems with X Windows, xorg.conf, having weird split screens and blurred mouse cursors


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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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I decided to try and see if I can get one of my spare Blue and White Yosemite G3 Powermacs humming along with Ubuntu 9.04. The “donor” machine has a cheesy-ass 16MB ATI Rage PCI card, 512MB of RAM (I think), 40GB HD (the same one from the installation the other day), and a 450MHz G4 ZIF (I think, haven’t verified the specs of this machine in over a year). The graphics card only seems to work at 800x600 @ 60Hz refresh rate, so that sucks, but isn’t a show-stopper. So, the installer is basically starting right now, it’s doing the partitions formatting stage. I will report back with my findings, as some of you may have some stinky ’ol G3/G4 Yosemite machines tucked away somewhere housing families of spiders; may as well do something remotely useful with them.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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No-go with the Yosemite. Oh, and it’s a 350MHz G3, not a 450MHz G4. I got all sorts of “crash” errors when the installer was almost at the end of the installation, and one “CD was written too fast” (or something like that) error 30% or so into the installation (which I was able to tell it to “Retry” which it did).

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Apparently all my “spare” hardware has problems??? I don’t know yet. I still need to test it all out. This same computer seemed to work fine as an OS9 gaming machine with a Voodoo3 3000 PCI card in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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Just an update, since this thread has already been repeatedly gang-threadraped. I got my AGP G4 (w/1.5GHz OWC G4 upgrade) running Ubuntu 9.04, the only problem is that I am limited to either 640x480 or 800x600 with the stock 16MB AGP graphics card. Anyone know if putting any other sort of graphics card will make a difference? 800x600 @60Hz refresh is pretty useless for anything other than being able to say, “Hey, I have Ubuntu 9.04 on my Mac G4”. The 7.whatever version I had installed back in 2007 seemed to be a lot better in terms of graphical requirements, and also took significantly less time to boot up.

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 Post subject: Re: Can't install Ubuntu
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16MB is more than enough to display 1920x1200 @ 32bit, so it's probably a case of your graphics card not being configured right or not having the right driver installed.

As I recall ATI went full-on open source late last year, so Ubuntu includes drivers for them in the distribution, but NVidia cards require a separate download.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:12 pm 
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MonkeyBoy wrote:
16MB is more than enough to display 1920x1200 @ 32bit, so it's probably a case of your graphics card not being configured right or not having the right driver installed.


I’m just using the default Ubuntu 9.04 OS install. Nothing fancy, no third-party drivers. 7.whateverIwasusing just worked right “out of the box”, without these issues. As for “being configured right”, the only options I have to choose from are 640x480 and 800x600, and 56Hz - 60Hz.

Oh, and I am now noticing strange random errors and stuff about widgets or something not initialising when the OS finally boots up, and also getting random lockups, so I in comparing 7.x to 9.04, 7.x clearly is the victor; perhaps I should download it and install it for old times sake. I don’t see the need to spend too much time tweaking a foreign OS just to keep it running stable.

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Looks like I’ll have some time (LOL, who am I kidding—I’m unemployed!!!) next week to dick around with installing 8.04 Ubuntu on one of my G4 Powermacs. Hopefully it will be more stable (and USABLE!) than 8.04 is.

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