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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:09 am 
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Have owned the 6500 it since 1998; the Apple RGB monitor since 1995. Both in very good condition* and working order. The 6500 has OS 9 loaded, I believe (it's been in its original box for a couple of years). *The exception is that the plastic rear panel which surrounds the various ports has broken off. Condition of the optical drive is unknown, but I believe it works; will check it if there is interest. Original keyboard, mouse and cabling included.

Is there any interest?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:44 am 
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And, if anybody takes you upon it, I think I have a G3/500 MHz card for the 6500, as well as USB1.0/Graphic card combo.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:27 pm 
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Huh, I didn't know they made CPU cards for that model. I guess I had assumed that slot was for cache purposes only and not upgrades.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:44 pm 
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They didn't make many, it was very limited for upgrading. I'm thinking it was a Sonnett upgrade.

The G3 made OS 7.5.5 too fast to be usable... couldn't scroll less than a hundred lines at once, OS9.2.2 was nearly too fast... always questioned whether something worked or not because it was instant.

I never figured out why, but the G3/400 MHz was actually faster than the G3/500 MHz... always just figured the 500 had to wait extra cycles for the Bus or whatever to catch up.

http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/s ... 2_500.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:23 pm 
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BDAqua wrote:
They didn't make many, it was very limited for upgrading. I'm thinking it was a Sonnett upgrade.

The G3 made OS 7.5.5 too fast to be usable... couldn't scroll less than a hundred lines at once, OS9.2.2 was nearly too fast... always questioned whether something worked or not because it was instant.

I never figured out why, but the G3/400 MHz was actually faster than the G3/500 MHz... always just figured the 500 had to wait extra cycles for the Bus or whatever to catch up.

http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/s ... 2_500.html


Good thing you don't have to worry about such things in OS X, huh? :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:40 pm 
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What, me worry! :D


Patiently waiting for OS 9.3 here! :P

Been unable to install the 2nd OSX that goes to 11, well it installs but will not boot… is that forever spinning thing a new feature or do I need to set my monitor to 2 bit grayscale? :upset:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:45 pm 
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How does the 6500 relate to the 3400? I had that for several years (bought for £1500 in 1998, though its list price was over £4000 the year before.) As I remember, it was a damn fine machine and ran - still does, I would think - OS 9.1 quite happily. I'm not sure 9.2.2 runs except on machines that also have OS X on?


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That was a powerbook right?

http://apple-history.com/3400


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9.2.1/9.2.2 are bootable and run just fine as regular OS 9 OSes. I think the last OS9 bootable Mac (an MDD I think) required 9.2.1 or 9.2.2 to be able to boot OS9.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:15 am 
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BDAqua wrote:
That was a powerbook right?

http://apple-history.com/3400


Yes. My lazy assumption that a model that conforms to 'nn00' must also be a laptop. DOH! :?


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### is a late-model 680x0 Mac, ##00 is a Power Mac, and if it reuses the same product name over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again then it's an Intel Mac.


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The PowerMac 6500 and PowerBook 3400 were based on the PowerPC 603e, were very comparable in performance, and both a welcome relief from the misery of the 62xx Performas and 5300 series PowerBooks, which barely worked and suffered numerous repair extension authorizations. One day a lady brought the remains of her PowerBook 5300c in to the repair shop in a bag, crying, after low-grade plastic the thing was made from simply disintegrated. Even when they worked, they were slower than dead turtles with their agonizingly slow PowerPC 603 processors, and didn't ship with even enough RAM to run all the bundled software and demos. Video performance on the Performa 62xx series and and PowerBook 5300 series was comparable to the Mac IIci, released in 1989. Much of Apple's rough times in the mid-1990s were caused by the ill-will these miserable systems left burning in the throats of once loyal customers. The PowerMac 6500 was, in contrast an ugly bulbous needlessly huge computer that nonetheless worked reliably and was noticeably quick. The PowerBook 3400 was also a bit awkward, and the screen hinges were a bit weak, but it ran well.

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Anonymous wrote:
The PowerMac 6500 and PowerBook 3400 were based on the PowerPC 603e, were very comparable in performance, and both a welcome relief from the misery of the 62xx Performas and 5300 series PowerBooks, which barely worked and suffered numerous repair extension authorizations. One day a lady brought the remains of her PowerBook 5300c in to the repair shop in a bag, crying, after low-grade plastic the thing was made from simply disintegrated. Even when they worked, they were slower than dead turtles with their agonizingly slow PowerPC 603 processors, and didn't ship with even enough RAM to run all the bundled software and demos. Video performance on the Performa 62xx series and and PowerBook 5300 series was comparable to the Mac IIci, released in 1989. Much of Apple's rough times in the mid-1990s were caused by the ill-will these miserable systems left burning in the throats of once loyal customers. The PowerMac 6500 was, in contrast an ugly bulbous needlessly huge computer that nonetheless worked reliably and was noticeably quick. The PowerBook 3400 was also a bit awkward, and the screen hinges were a bit weak, but it ran well.

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Yes, I migrated from the PB Duo 280 (a good machine in its day, provided you got the MiniDock to go with it!) to the 3400 and was just blown away by the screen size, the speed, and the capacity (3 whole GB, which I never filled up :D ). IMO it beat the Fisher Price iBook hands down.


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If there is no interest for the 6500 and Apple 13" RGB monitor here, can anyone suggest a good (perhaps the best) place to sell vintage gear? I'd even donate them to a computer museum if anyone knows a good one (they'd have to pay for shipping, though).

(EDIT) I just found the website SellYourMac.com, but they're no longer buying pre-Intel machines. So, having stalled on this for some time and with the need to get rid of the old in order to move forward, I think I'll just bring the 6500 and monitor to recycling.

But I also have a very nice desk with sliding keyboard shelf, one file-size and one shallow drawer, and a matching hutch I need to part with.

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I'd say put it up on Craigslist but you'll get nothing but endless requests to either buy it for $.50 or "give it to me."


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MonkeyBoy wrote:
I'd say put it up on Craigslist but you'll get nothing but endless requests to either buy it for $.50 or "give it to me."

Exactly what I'm hoping to avoid! ;)

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