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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:21 am 
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Trying to find the iTunes 2.0.4 for Mac OS 9 installers or updaters for all the languages that Apple supported: French, English, International English, Spanish, etc. The links on their archived KB document are all broken, and I need to know where to get them all.

Anybody have them, or know where I can get them?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:00 am 
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this site has the standard 2.0.4 english version for download
http://systemfolder.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/itunes2/

other languages are hard to find


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:07 am 
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Yeah, he has that one, and the Italian version; but I'm looking for all the other ones.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:22 am 
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Welcome aboard Mulder ! :welcome:

Hmmm, I don't remember OS9 that well, but didn't it use language packs for iTunes, or just for the OS?

Boy, Apple sure dried up their downloads, but...
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However, there are two other MP3 software programs that you may like more than iTunes 2 -- Melonsoft's Cabrio 1.4.6 and Panic's Audion 3. Both are freeware and are available for MacOS 9 as well as MacOS X.


http://www.everymac.com/mac-answers/mac ... tunes.html

I wonder if they come in different languages?

Hmmm, Melondoft is gone it looks like, but...

http://download.panic.com/audion/


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:46 am 
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iTunes for Mac OS 9 does come in all the different languages it supported. Problem is, the smi.bin files are all identically named, regardless of the language. You can't install a non-native language iTunes in your system; it will be rejected during the install process.

But since people still use OS 9, it would be really helpful to have, which is why I'm looking for all of them. All these links are broken: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1129?viewlocale=en_US


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:05 am 
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I wonder if there are other ftp sites like this one...

http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/apple/iTunes/

Or this workaround with those broken links?
Original download location on Akamai's servers, archived by archive.org:

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http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/ind ... 39690.html


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:42 am 
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i have some old OS 9 discs at home ill look through


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:09 am 
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BDAqua wrote:
I wonder if there are other ftp sites like this one...

http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/apple/iTunes/

Or this workaround with those broken links?
Original download location on Akamai's servers, archived by archive.org:

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http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/ind ... 39690.html


That link is for the English or International English version of iTunes 2.0.4. I've got those and the Italian one, and using the WayBack machine as you described only works for the French and Japanese installers, although the French one only downloads 62 KB, which isn't large enough for the installer.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:20 am 
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Ah, I was afraid of that, I tried the french one & got zilch here.

I wonder what mc68k will find?

Middle of this page, I wonder if he has other versions than Italian?

http://systemfolder.wordpress.com/

Or maybe a Users group?

http://www.apple.com/usergroups/


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:16 pm 
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If you download the .iso files for the language-specific Mac OS 9 retail discs, you can use Tome Viewer to see if iTunes 2.0.4 is on them, and if it is, then you can extract it and upload it to a server for everyone to get if they need it.

Unfortunately, I don't have my Mac available to me right now; otherwise I'd do that.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:32 pm 
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Where are those available?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:28 pm 
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hmm i used sheepshaver and a 9.0.4 install disc image, but didn't see it in the custom OS install. maybe 9.0.4 is too old? i think i have the 9.1 and 9.2 discs at home, will check


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:03 pm 
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Interestingly enough I poked around a bit looking for the files and this was posted in Apple Support Communities:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5623


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:24 pm 
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Whoot, do those contain iTunes?


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That's a very good question. At least it's more sources to look through.

Also, the web archive is probably a good source for files, since almost all Mac OS links on Apple Support are broken now and have been for years. Wish I could claim the idea as my own, but its from here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3460487

I wonder if they cached a download link for iTunes 2.0.4?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:37 am 
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I checked the web archive already; all I could get were the English, Italian, and Japanese versions. All the others are gone.

If it's on the 9.2.x retail discs, you could download some of the .iso files for those and open them with Tome Viewer to see if iTunes 2.0.4 is there; if so, extract it and upload it to a server for archiving. You can find links to some of the Mac OS 9 retail discs for different languages here:

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macinto ... -doors-mdd


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I'm working on the Spanish one now, but it's a slow D/L. :coffee:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:42 am 
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I checked my old archives and some semi-broken disks but haven't turned anything up yet for the Spanish version.

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Try this:

http://www.oldapps.com/mac/

Actually: I just checked - they don't carry Apple software - probably a copyright thing. Still, a useful resource if you have an old Mac.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:40 pm 
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Looks like no iTunes on the Spanish OS9 ISO. :(


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:06 pm 
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Hmmm…maybe it's part of the 9.2.x updater(s).

https://www.mediafire.com/?64da0g3iih922


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:47 pm 
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That link didn't work, just asking to download their app or sign in.

On the Mac OS 9.2.1 Update I already have here... no sign of iTunes at all.

Am I remembering it wrong, or did iTunes only come on iMac OS9 Install Discs, and something like iLife for other Macs?


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BDAqua wrote:
That link didn't work, just asking to download their app or sign in.

Apparently the URL from the actual page uses the '#' sign to start everything after 'mediafire.com/'. It's corrected now.

iTunes was part of the standard install on all Mac OS 9 installation discs--retail or otherwise. It was never part of iLife.


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Indeed, iLife started after OS 9, back when OS 9 was king Apple included everything in the OS. That's part of why they created Claris, so they didn't need to include AppleWorks, etc. for free. "That's not our software, that's Claris software, we can't include that."

I have an image of generic MacOS 9 and an image of the recovery disks for my G5 (10.4, so it includes OS 9.2.x for Classic). Oh. That reminds me. I have that installed on a volume. ... Well, so much for that idea, looks like they neutered the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder. No MacOS iTunes there.

Oh, hey, I found an image of the recovery discs for my G4. And they contain... iTunes 1.1. However, at least it gives us a correlation to when iTunes 2.0.4 exists. These recovery discs include MacOS 9.2, so MacOS 9.2 = iTunes 1.1, so for iTunes 2.0.4 you need to go newer than MacOS 9.2.


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Apple released version 1.0 of the program under a new name, "iTunes", on January 9, 2001, at Macworld San Francisco. Macintosh users immediately began poking through iTunes's resource fork, where they discovered numerous strings and other resources that indicated that iTunes was a re-engineered Sound Jam MP. Casady & Greene ceased distribution of SoundJam MP on June 1, 2001 at the request of the developers.[3]

Originally a Mac OS 9-only application, iTunes began to support Mac OS X with the release of version 2.0 in October, 2001. Release 2.0 also added support for a then-new product, the iPod.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_version_history
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Mac OS 9 is the final major release of Apple's Classic Mac OS operating system. Introduced on October 23, 1999...
Apple discontinued development of Mac OS 9 in 2001...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS9

So it seems, there'd be more than a Year's worth of OS9 Install Discs that couldn't've had iTunes, and only a very narrow time frame that could've had v 2.x on them.


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