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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:06 pm 
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OK, I'm doing the RPM challenge again this year, that is, coming up with a full CD in 28 days.

I'm collaborating with a friend by uploading files over the 'net, and vice versa... works OK.

The only problem is we each are downloading the entire file structure of each song over and over again.

What would be ideal is to find an app that will allow synchronization, like you can with certain programs to SMP or AFP... except over FTP. Does anyone make a beast?


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:39 pm 
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If you mount the FTP site via the Finder, it's possible those same tools will work.


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:36 pm 
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I've never been able to write via finder FTP... only read...

I found one program called "transmit" that seems to work, so maybe I solved my own problem...


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:14 pm 
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You can write to AFP with the Finder.

You can also use rsync in combination with ssh, if you can ssh between the machines.

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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:41 pm 
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I know about afp, but I can't afp to my web host which is what we're using for file exchange.

Maybe a better question is whether I should employ a more efficient workflow... shouldn't I just find a way so we can both exchange files directly on my machine rather then each of us transferring/downloading from my web host?

Are there any big security issues with running my own ftp server?


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:41 am 
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psalad wrote:
Are there any big security issues with running my own ftp server?

Yes. If you run conventional FTP it doesn't encrypt passwords, so before long someone will steal your password and you'll be serving a lot more than the files you think you are. It also may not work depending on how your network is set up. The FTP protocol was designed before it occurred to many people to do network address translation (NAT), so it may not work through NAT even if you're clever in setting it up.

AFP directly to your machine would generally work better and be more secure than FTP, assuming your collaborator also has a Mac. It would, however, be slower in navigating files and folders (file transfers are no faster or slower than FTP).

If you can get data directly between your two machines, rsync through ssh would be a pretty secure solution if set up correctly.

A case can be made for storing a copy of the data away from both work machines, or for working from your machine. With a third location, neither party is likely to overwrite the other's changes while you're trying to use the file. It also gives you some additional degree of backup. On the other hand, there is the problem that you may both, simultaneously, make changes to the same file and upload it, overwriting the other person's changes if your synchronization tool isn't clever enough to realize you've both made changes.

Source code repositories like Subversion, Git, or many others, have pretty much solved this problem for text files. These tools are also often irritating for non-programmers to use. I haven't kept up with systems for managing ungainly, undiffable, binary files or when you really don't want to keep lots of revisions: you don't probably care much about versions, just about conflicts, so you don't clobber your collaborator's changes.

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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:30 am 
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Try dropbox.com

If you both sign up (free 2gig storage); you can share a folder between you two. Anything in that folder will auto sync (mac/pc/linux/iphone etc). You make a change and it just changes what changed, nothing else. Works great and is totally free! Also if you put in my username @gmail.com when you sign up you get an extra 250 megs I think.

I use it at work and at home and so far its been great and I've yet to see any outtages.

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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:43 pm 
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CyberDuck is a free ftp APP...

http://cyberduck.ch/

And though Finder doesn't Write to ftp, Terminal can...

http://mmughrabi.blogspot.com/2007/10/u ... lient.html


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:02 pm 
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+1 for Dropbox. It's seamless and always on. It's even a poor man's versioning system.


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:05 pm 
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I'm a user of cyberduck already, but the sync function never seemed to work correctly...

So far "Transmit" seems to be perfect...

I forgot about dropbox... 2gb seems to be the big limitation, though you can buy up more and it seems very reasonable. I'm going to see how "Transmit" does for a while anyway... might end up going with Dropbox if it doesn't work.

Thanks y'all!


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 Post subject: Re: application recommendation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:19 pm 
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WEBDAV share on one of the computers?


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