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 Post subject: Since it’s now ethical and legal…
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:41 pm 
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…how do I use this “jailbreaking” technology on my first-generation 8GB A1203? It has no SIM in it, and it is my understanding that employing said “jailbreaking” technology will allow me to use my T-Mobile SIM in the phone, even though I have no data plan.

I received this iPhone for free from a friend who works for a company that makes iPhone applications, and he was shocked a couple weeks ago to find out that I hadn’t jailbroken it yet. Well, if I can use this iPhone as my cellphone, that would be really neato. Since I had received the phone from him in December of 2009, the only things I’ve used it for is an ultra-portable computer, movie player, and music player. Seems to come in really handy when traveling, just have to find a free wireless access point, and sometimes when I’m in the garage and wanting to check email I’ll power it on and access the internet via my wireless router.

Will “jailbreaking” this phone mysteriously cause my current provider (T-Mobile) to suddenly start sticking their rods financially deeper into my backside? All I want to do with it is: (a) use it as a phone using my current carrier’s provided SIM/service, and (b) continue using it as an ultra-portable computer without seeing higher monthly bills from T-Mobile.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:20 pm 
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I really have no idea as I don't even have an iPhone but once Jailbroken the phone should act as any other regular mobile phone. You'll have to set up the data configuration to go through T-Mobile if you don't want to rely on wi-fi hotspots and you won't get stuff such as visual voicemail but other than that I think there's not much else to know. I supposing that you are already aware of T-Mobile's data prices (per day, per transfer, per minute, flat rate etc).

That's how I understand it anyway (until someone with real knowledge chimes in). Tomorrow, I should find out if there will be an unlocked iPhone available in Spain and at what pricepoint.

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 Post subject: Re: Since it’s now ethical and legal…
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:30 pm 
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Fools!!! jail-breaking and unlocking are not the same thing. :D Pretty sure after you jailbreak it and unlock it you can use it on Y-mobile. You may want to add a data plan or turn data off or you could see something else extra on your bill. I'm in the same situation now as my wife got the iphone4. and we have an extra iphone it be nice to throw a pay as you go sim in it and let the kids use it.
Surely someone knowledgeable will answer all these questions.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:41 am 
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Meanwhile, I just need to find some instructions on how to do this process. So far, lots of SPAMMY non-relevant Google links, some to untrusted websites. Anyone know of any proper non-SPAMMY resources?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:23 am 
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Leo,

What iOS rev are you running on your phone?

First you have to jailbreak your phone using one of a couple available tools.

Once this is done you will have to install a sim unlock utility.
Then you need to setup your settings to work with Tmobile sms and internet. If your just doing voice; then you probably wont need to adjust any settings on your phone.

I'd suggest using the "PwnageTool"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PwnageTool

I'm not up to date as I used to be on it; but make sure to grab the copy that still supports the older 1st gen iphone. Most of the newer revs removed everything older than the 3g model.

Once its pwned it should restart and you will have an app installed on your homescreen called "cydia".

This allows you to download apps from a 3rd party app store (non-apple approved apps).

Or this is a pretty good guide for unlock/jailbreak of 2g iPhone.
http://modmyi.com/guides/how-jailbreak- ... dows-os-x/

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 Post subject: Re: Since it’s now ethical and legal…
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:06 pm 
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No idea, I don’t know where to look. This is all I can find out about it:

Network Not Available
Songs 339
Videos 9
Photos 0
Applications 15
Capacity 7.1GB
Available 124MB
Version 3.1.3 (7E18)
Carrier Not Available
Serial Number (irrelevant)
Model FA712LL
Wi-Fi Address (irrelevant)
Bluetooth (irrelevant)
IMEI (probably irrelevant)
ICCID (blank)
Modem Firmware 04.05.04_G

Is that enough to go on?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:14 pm 
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Oh yeah, I want to reiterate now, what my intentions are with this iPhone: to continue to be able to use it as a wireless computer on my home wireless network (in addition to public free hotspots), and also be able to use my T-Mobile telephone and voicemail service on the phone. I don’t give a bleeding rat’s ass about running applications or texting or any lame ass chat stuff on it. I just want to add the ability to make/receive telephone calls and make/receive voicemail (which is what I use my cellphone for).

Looking at that Ownage Tool website, it doesn’t say what version of OSX I need to be running in order to use the program. Does anyone know if 10.4.11 on a dual-core G5 will run it?

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http://www.online-tech-tips.com/compute ... s-version/

I would guess you're on 3.1.3 from what you posted but double-check... i think you need at least version 3.1.5 of the pwnagetool to break OS 3.1.3:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/02/08/ip ... ool-3-1-5/


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MonkeyBoy wrote:
http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/how-to-determine-iphone-blackberry-os-version/

I would guess you're on 3.1.3 from what you posted but double-check... i think you need at least version 3.1.5 of the pwnagetool to break OS 3.1.3:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/02/08/ip ... ool-3-1-5/


iTunes just informed me, after my having clicked on the “Check for Update” button, that “Your iPhone software is up to date”. Well, I guess it’s time for me to fuck this thing up. With my luck, that is what will happen. Oh well, got it for free anyhow.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Well clearly this hacker stuff is over my head. I got this message, something along the lines of “I can haz fail” when I tried to make it do it’s thing with that Ownage application. Some sort of file missing, it is unable to locate it on the web (telling me my internet connection doesn’t exist). Oh well. Back to using my T-Mobile Motorla Razor phone.

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Which version of pwnagetool did you use? 3.1.5?

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/534426 ... _3.1.5.dmg


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MonkeyBoy wrote:
Which version of pwnagetool did you use? 3.1.5?

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/534426 ... _3.1.5.dmg


Yes, that is the one I downloaded and installed, and then ran in order to get the “I can haz fail” message.

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I just did it with redsn0w. but it was a 3G os 4.01 and and intel mac. So I cant help you.


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I would think that the first revision phones would be the easiest to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Since it’s now ethical and legal…
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Leopold Porkstacker wrote:
I would think that the first revision phones would be the easiest to do.

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There are to many specific guides and dependencies.

Basically it goes like this:
backup your iphone
1-get the app(pwneage or redsn0w or l33ticracker etc.) and the firmware from apple IPSW example (iPhone1,2_4.0_8A293_Restore.IPSW)
save them on your desktop yours will likely be iphone1,1_3.1.3_xxxxx_Restore.IPSW nubers after iphone are model number and numbers after that are firmware numbers.
2- run the app i used redsn0w it tells you to point it to the IPSW file,after validating tells you to turn off the phone.
3- the follow the instructions on screen.
for me it was hold top button for 2 seconds
hold home button for 5 seconds let then let go of top button
continue to hold home button till it says not to the rest was done automatically.
was fast say 10min the the phone does a few things and reboots once more.

http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-iph ... n0w-0.9.4/


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:42 pm 
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“Home” button is in the software, or physically on the iPhone? What does it look like? Mine just has one button on top, a round button on the front, and two switches on the left side.

I feel so technologically retarded. Gimme a dial phone and a tape-based answering machine, please, and for computing, a Mac Plus with RedRyder and a 2400 baud modem should do the trick. :fishsmack:

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home button is the main round one.


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 Post subject: Re: Since it’s now ethical and legal…
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I dunno, too much stuff involved. I think I’ll pass on this for now.

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Redsn0w works differently than pwnagetool from what I can gather, and it sounds 3.1.3 closed up a lot of loopholes that pwnagetool and others used, but redsn0w is both new (created since 4.0) and supposed to work with both 3.1.3 and 4.x.

I mean, if you're not using the iPhone right now, why not futz with it... assuming you have free time to futz with it of course.


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Leo

Stop what your doing and do this.

visit www.jailbreakme.com on your phone (may time out a few times since its busy).

Itll jailbreak it in about 5 mins including restart.

Done :)

I just did it on my original iPhone 2g and it worked fine.

Once you do this there are some unlock utilities on the cydia installer.

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Interesting. It states “Jailbreaking… Sit tight.”. We’ll see what happens. Worst case, a paperweight! :lol:

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Well, that really fucked it up. That Jailbreakme/Cydia stuff, that is. When I turn the phone on now, after it gets to the Apple logo, there are a few multicoloured horizontal lines that appear on the screen. Also, I still am unable to use the T-Mobile SIM from my Motorola Razor phone—it gives me that “Use this in an emergency only” or some crap message like that. I was under the impression that jailbreaking the phone would allow me to use this non-AT&T SIM—did I misunderstand the purpose of jailbreaking? If I had in fact misunderstood the reasoning, someone please explain to me what the purpose of jailbreaking an iPhone is other than having those multicoloured horizontal lines that appear on the screen when the phone turns on.

Oh yeah, and also it now does not show up under iTunes when it’s connected to the computer.

Awesome. Totally fucking awesome.

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Leo, did you try other items before you ran jailbreak me?
The static lines upon boot up are normal; after a minute itll load the normal OS and work.
The jailbreaking adds cydia (which is a 3rd party app installer to allow you to run non apple approved apps).
Jail breaking does not unlock the phone for non att carrier use.
To do that you need to run one of the unlock utilities like redsn0w/yellowsn0w etc.
If you want to put the phone back; just connect it to iTunes and do a restore to you last backup or reload it.

As I said I jailbroke mine again last week using the site and haven't had any issues yet. Though I use ATT as my carrier; so unlocking was not in my list of items I wanted.

Or if you just want unlock you can get a device like this (not sure if I'd buy from this store though).
It fits under your sim card and tricks the phone into thinking your using a ATT sim card.
Fully hardware based; so no software needed.

http://www.unitedsale.com/Turbo-Speed-N ... _1164.html

or better yet.

Try calling ATT. Tell them you were given a older iphone 2g and ask them for the unlock code. They wont give them out for 3g or iphone 4 but they usually do for older phones. Tell them ATT service in your area is bad.

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Leo what ever you do don't hurt that phone :) if it's really a 1g and you wanna get rid of it let me know. i love em


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Jailbreaking allows iPhones to run unsigned apps - that is, apps that don't have a digital signature that was effectively purchased from Apple.

Unlocking the phone is done via an unsigned app (since Apple would never in a million years approve an unlocking app), and that allows you to run the phone on other GSM networks besides AT&T.

So to use it on another network you usually jailbreak then unlock it. If you're an AT&T customer you can claim you'll be traveling overseas and need an unlock code, at which point they'll cower down and give it to you, but I've never heard of them handing those out to non-customers.


There are all kinds of unsigned apps that allow you to do things that aren't approved by Apple - tethering with a laptop so you can use the phone's data plan for generic PC/Mac internet access, instead of being restricted to use by iPhone apps, for instance.

If the phone boots but is otherwise normal aside aside from those few errant lines, odds are there's a way to get it back, but without it in my little hands I'd be throwing darts at a board and guessing at what's going on. Most of the time things look far worse than they actually are - it's probably on the USB bus, just not in a state that iTunes likes.


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