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I just noticed that the Logitech Control Center Daemon is using 255MB of real and private memory. How can the driver for a mouse take more memory than computers of 10 years ago had in total? What's also stupid is that scrolling makes the mouse driver take up a lot of CPU. I can understand scrolling making the application in which I'm scrolling use CPU in order to render things, but why should the mouse driver take a minimum of 24% of a 2.8GHz cpu (sometimes up to 90%)? I would turn it off and simply use the OS X driver, but my mouse has a scroll wheel that can change from the clicky type to being free-spinning. I prefer the free-spinning mode, but can't use it without the driver.

Almost every Kernel panics my Macs have had were related to Logitech keyboard/mouse drivers. They vanished (problems, I think at least the keyboard is still here) a couple of years ago with my setup, no fancy scrolling wheels here though. Maybe the wise Logitech people are trying to s(t)imulate the rodent life cycle to make the experience authentic?

Strange, I to have a logitech mouse with the ability to use with or without click feeling in the mouse wheel. It works just fine w/o logitech drivers on my macbook with snow leopard and hacky; even in vista/win7. There is a manual switch on the bottom of the mouse to enable to disable it; not sure if its the same on yours.

On mine (the MX Revolution), it's a software option for what happens when clicking down on the mousewheel. The default is to act as a third button. The Logitech drivers have the option to make it so clicking on the mousewheel changes it between clicky mode and free-spinning mode. Without the drivers, OS X treats it as a normal wheel click.

Hello sarahbau. I had a similar problem a year or so back. It appear to me that Swiss-owned Logitech has a long history of only halfheartedly supporting Macintosh driver development. They've had a fiscally poor 2009 – as their latest annual report makes clear. The document is full of pages that work to substantiate their executives compensation packages; yet, nary a word about product development or R & D.

Regarding their buggy drivers, what worked best for me – simply enough – was updating to the latest version. But, many others have reported that going back one driver-version, fixed the issues they were experiencing.

Also, there is a not very well known, competing controller for HID-devices, named ControllerMate v4, that quite a few Mac owners speak highly of – here's a link, if you're interested:

http://www.orderedbytes.com/controllermate/

I hope your system is running smoothly soon.

appler505 :>)

I swear by SteerMouse. Looking at my MacPro, it's only using 4.4 MB of Real Memory sitting idle.

Jeff

Exactly what I was going to post.

I gave up on Logitech’s shitty software several years ago. Alessandro Levi Montalcini’s USB Overdrive seemed to do a much better job.

-he who stacks pork

Weren't Logitech drivers notorious for kernel panicking Macs for a while, like many years?

- Anonymous

Unfortunately, while ControllerMate, USB Overdrive and SteerMouse are all good (I've used each of them in the past), none of them have the ability to do this one thing (unless they've added support for this specific feature since I last used them). I can set each button to do specific functions, key commands, etc, but there isn't a "switch between clicky and spinny" option

This isn't quite true Sarah. I have the same mouse, and GOD I wish it would treat the middle click as a click, but it won't. It ALWAYS switches between the friction/non-friction modes, and I never installed the Logitech driver (I use USB Overdrive as it has FAR better speed scaling and OS X's internal mouse speed scaling blows donkey nuts). This is the reason I'm still stuck on my MS Intellicrap Optical - it behaves as it should, without the manufacturer driver causing major problems.

It's true for mine. Maybe yours has a different firmware. Without drivers, mine acts as a wheel click on two different computers.

WTB your firmware. No, seriously. It's the one reason mine sits collecting dust on the charger. I need center click in WoW for self targeting. No go with the MX-RV as is, unless the Logicrap driver is installed, and when that's installed all hell breaks loose with stability.

So I'm confused. Sarah, you need the software to be able to tell the difference between pressing down on the scroll wheel as if it's a button, and rolling it as if it's a wheel? Steermouse handles that just fine. I have the wheel press equal Page Down in most things so I can scroll quickly and the rolling acts as a scroll wheel, but I can change the speed it scrolls or even make it do something completely different. Am I confusing what you're asking for?

Jeff

Yes. It's not between clicking and scrolling. It's between clicking and making it so clicking it changes it between an incremented scroll wheel (so when you scroll, it goes click click click click) or a smooth, free-spinning scroll wheel (so not only are there no increments in the scrolling, but I can scroll down, remove my finger from the wheel, and it's still spinning). Without the software, there is no way to get to the free-spinning mode, and the wheel acts like a normal incremented scroll wheel with the ability to click down on it for a middle button press.

Yours and mine are opposite beasts. I like yours more. In my case I have to have Logicrap's software installed to prevent the mouse from going into non-friction mode, which I do *not* want in WoW when using the scroll wheel to tab between targets.

Yeah. I tried playing UT with this mouse once, and it just doesn't work because of the scroll wheel. Even when I had it on clicky mode, it didn't always just go up or down one weapon when I scrolled up or down one click. It seems that the clicks are just to prevent it from spinning freely, and don't actually represent when it registers a scroll up or down action.