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 Post subject: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:01 am 
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Some people are reporting it fixes the problems on the iPad 2. But what has me worried is the old YMMV/crapshoot catch.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:46 am 
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So far I've read both ways, no experience or iPad myself.

I'd say the odds are 2 to 1 in your favor. :(


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:02 am 
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Can't comment on the iPad 2, but what have you got to lose?

Roll the dice!!

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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:49 am 
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azrich wrote:
Can't comment on the iPad 2, but what have you got to lose?

Roll the dice!!

Nothing to lose except a now fully functioning iPad (still with 7.1.2). Could go from that to brick, or just hobbling along, or working swell. Not ready for that crapshoot just yet.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
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WZZZ wrote:
azrich wrote:
Can't comment on the iPad 2, but what have you got to lose?

Roll the dice!!

Nothing to lose except a now fully functioning iPad (still with 7.1.2). Could go from that to brick, or just hobbling along, or working swell. Not ready for that crapshoot just yet.


Make a complete local back up first. Always.

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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:53 pm 
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azrich wrote:
WZZZ wrote:
azrich wrote:
Can't comment on the iPad 2, but what have you got to lose?

Roll the dice!!

Nothing to lose except a now fully functioning iPad (still with 7.1.2). Could go from that to brick, or just hobbling along, or working swell. Not ready for that crapshoot just yet.


Make a complete local back up first. Always.

Nope, that won't do the trick. You can't go back to the 7 once you install the 8, or for that matter, any older version reinsall. Except for a very short open window when both versions are were available, Apple stopped signing the older one, preventing you from going back. If you install any upgrade, you're married to it, for better or worse, forever without the chance of divorce.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:39 pm 
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Wow, like a covenant marriage. Rats.

When I had to step back from 8.0.1 I found a link to the 8.0.0 OS online at Apple. There's a way to control click or something and you can pick the package to install through iTunes. I should remember it better as it wasn't that long ago.

Oh well, I guess that was a special circumstance.

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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
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8.1.1 patches the pangu jailbreak exploit too


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
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Ipad and iPhone working fine after update.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:16 pm 
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Is yours an iPad 2?


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:14 am 
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BDAqua wrote:
Is yours an iPad 2?


Sorry should have said. iPad air 1 gen.

I have an iPad 2 and will update that tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:26 pm 
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azrich wrote:
When I had to step back from 8.0.1 I found a link to the 8.0.0 OS online at Apple. There's a way to control click or something and you can pick the package to install through iTunes. I should remember it better as it wasn't that long ago.

Oh well, I guess that was a special circumstance.
Not all that special, that's how you flash an arbitrary version onto any iDevice. However when you select the image iTunes will go out to Apple's servers to either authenticate or encrypt (maybe both, I forget the specifics) parts of the image. If Apple's servers no longer contain the keys for that particular OS version, the upload will fail with a numeric error message. The error could mean a variety of things if the keys are on Apple's servers, but it also can occur if the keys are missing from Apple's servers.

Apple only maintains the last couple versions of iOS on their servers, and have the really nasty habit of near-immediately removing the previous major release after a new major release. So most iOS 7.x keys disappeared for most models once iOS 8.0 had been out for a few weeks. Once iOS 8.1 came out, iOS 8.0.x should suffer the same fate after a similar time period.

Essentially this is Apple's primary method of playing the cat-and-mouse game that is jailbreaking. By removing the keys from their servers, they prevent people from recovering their device to a specific iOS version that they have a jailbreak for, and instead have to recover to the latest version which - in theory - they don't have a jailbreak for. Nevermind all the people whose devices have serious problems with the latest iOS version, you don't matter, and besides, you didn't actually buy anything from Apple - it's still their hardware, they're just letting you use it.


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 Post subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1
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Thank you for that explanation MB. That makes sense.

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